User talk:OOeyes

Hello
Hiya Eyes. I'm AKAAkira, a semi-active admin here.

Since I found myself a nice, implicit invitation on your userpage, I thought I should bring up the topic of extensions. Firstly, Semantic MediaWiki - User:Niet3sche brought it up a while ago, and I'm pretty convinced it'd be very convenient to have around, especially for the lists pages. I've actually already pitched it to User:Bumble first, though I've done a pretty terrible job following up. She did say she'll talk to the php dev team, though I've no idea what came of it.

The second one would be Text Replace, though this is to serve the same function as your EyeBot (I think), so I'm not sure if this is necessary anymore.

Thank you for your time. -Akira 05:50, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm still new enough I don't have direct contact with the PHP team just yet. I also haven't had time to get a feel for this community, so I don't know yet whether I would recommend going with Semantic MediaWiki or not.


 * There's a bit of an unfortunate paradox in deciding whether or not to begin using it. From a human perspective, it's best for a community with a fair number of technical minds who have or can quickly pick up database concepts, since it has a lot in common with databases, and I don't yet if this community has that. It also means from this perspective, it's better to wait until you know what kind of community you end up attracting. From a practical perspective, it's easier to start using Semantic Mediawiki earlier on because that's less information you might have to adjust to work within SMW's structure, and the earlier you do the work, the more work it saves you later.


 * The problem is, early on, you don't usually have much a community, and it's a lot harder to tell if the community will enough people with the right skills to use it and make any needed changes. By the time you do have a good idea, you're late to the game and the upfront work to set things up to use SMW is less likely to save you work later.


 * So, if the game is active and expanding and you think this community has people who understand it or who can figure it out, I'll be happy to help you get installed and get started with it. If not, I'm not sure I'd actually recommend it. It might end up being more trouble than it's worth. Eyes 12:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * DN wiki's community can be summed up in four words: "Not much of one". ^^' Only last summer this place was a bustling hive. Now, I think I'm still the most active user, despite being clinically semi-active.


 * As DN wiki is quite frankly no contest to DN Armory in the items data department, instead of focusing on the item pages I'd think DN wiki is better off specializing in stuff like quest info, mechanics of DN, and class guides. So the kind of community I would hope to attract is probably the veteran players, not the technically-minded ones.


 * Still, I'm willing to learn SMW, at least. And from my impression of it, it's just too darn convenient not to have.


 * So my assessment from your info is that the community as a whole - both the now and in the future - probably isn't the best environment for SMW. But if you think it's fine for just a few people to know how to work it for the sake of convenience, then I do want to go for it. -Akira 00:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Text replace is ok for simple mass find/replace functions but is no where near as flexible as a bot. I'm not sure there is really a need for it if there is a working bot available. As for SMW, the work involved in implementing it throughout the wiki at this point vs the benefits it would present is, imo, not worth the added server load that SMW creates in general. It's something that will need to be taken into consideration. BTW Akira, thank you very much for your commitment to DN Wiki. Your work is appreciated. --Wynthyst 12:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Wide-scale deletion?
Can EyeBot do that? With a recent release, this wiki needs to remove Template:Unimplemented from almost every page it's on.

Also, can EyeBot automatically rename pages? A few pages need to do that as well as a find-and-replace, so I thought I should ask first. -Akira 21:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm still just using AWB for bot tasks, and as far as I know, the only thing it can automatically do is page edits. I don't see anything in the docs that suggests otherwise. Removing the template would be easy enough, but I'd need to know what pages to leave alone. Eyes 21:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Royal Castle, Gobersian Goblin, Boss Rush (IW/MR), Boss Rush (SH), and Rozin Sanctuary are the only ones I'm not sure about. Otherwise, please remove said template.

The other terms that need the find-and-replace are: EX -> + (There's a space before both "EX" and "+") Evasion Slash -> Feint Finish Attack -> Coup De Grace Offend Hit -> Overpower Bone Crash -> Bone Cleaver Magical Breeze -> Ward of the Spirit Critical Break -> Lucky Shot Cheating Point -> Deathbloom Evade -> Untouchable Arcane -> Arcane Overdrive Steal Magic -> Mystic Mischief Gravity Blast -> Gravity Ball Switch Gravity -> Gravity Well Rolling Lava -> Magma Ball Ice Sphere -> Frost Chaos Guardian Force -> Divine Barrier Judge's Power -> Crusader's Zeal Shock of Relic -> Relic Reaction Shock Transition -> Inquisition Gearmaster -> Gear Master Chainsaw Tower -> Chainsaw Quackum Mecha Duck -> Quackum Crash Big Mecha Bomber -> Gigaton Quack Pingpong Bomb -> Super Ball Alfredo Beam -> Alfredo Overdrive Love Virus -> Lovesick Injector -> Injection Healing Rain -> Good Vibrations C2H5OH -> Super Slop Cocktail


 * ...Which all have at least three cases to them (though sometimes all on the same page). Does this still warrant bot use? -Akira 23:22, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, but I need clarification on whether you want me to maintain the casing after the replace, or would you prefer I convert to the capitalized casing here? Eyes 23:42, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Tad late reply, but the resulting casing should be exactly as I wrote them here. So...I think that's the former choice, maintaining the casing. (Bit unclear on the difference, though.) -Akira 00:52, 26 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've run this through a few different times, trying a few different ways to get the list of pages to check. I can't guarantee it got all occurrences properly. Eyes 03:20, 26 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it didn't go as well as I hoped. Still, it lightened the load, so thanks for that. -Akira 16:20, 26 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Can I ask you to do a quick find-and-replace for "Category:Future Classes" to "Category:Classes"? Sorry, I kinda missed that when I asked you last. -Akira 01:43, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure. And done. Eyes 02:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. -Akira 16:01, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Kind of on the same topic - can I request a search-and-replace for all instances of "Julie" to "Zulie", please? -Akira 02:17, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It's done, I think. There weren't many results returning Julie on a search, so I'm not sure there were really very many occurrences. Eyes 03:13, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Not a lot of pages, but she's so ingrained into the mainstream quests that her name occurred at least at least twenty times in both versions of Chapter 6. And thanks! -Akira 15:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC)